{"id":4911,"date":"2009-04-13T01:59:12","date_gmt":"2009-04-13T00:59:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.johncoulthart.com\/feuilleton\/?p=4911"},"modified":"2021-12-10T15:26:03","modified_gmt":"2021-12-10T15:26:03","slug":"amazonfail","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.johncoulthart.com\/feuilleton\/2009\/04\/13\/amazonfail\/","title":{"rendered":"#Amazonfail"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/img26.imageshack.us\/img26\/2074\/amazonfail.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-4912\" title=\"amazonfail.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/www.johncoulthart.com\/feuilleton\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/amazonfail.jpg\" alt=\"amazonfail.jpg\" width=\"340\" height=\"121\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.johncoulthart.com\/feuilleton\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/amazonfail.jpg 340w, https:\/\/www.johncoulthart.com\/feuilleton\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/04\/amazonfail-300x106.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 340px) 85vw, 340px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I haven&#8217;t been using Twitter for very long and until today hadn&#8217;t seen the way it can spur people to action with incredible speed. Among my circle of people it was <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/neilhimself\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Neil Gaiman<\/a> who set things rolling with a link to <a href=\"http:\/\/markprobst.livejournal.com\/15293.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">this post<\/a> by author Mark R Probst which describes how Amazon.com have been quietly removing the sales rankings from books with gay content. Writer <a href=\"http:\/\/craigspoplife.blogspot.com\/2009\/04\/is-amazon-homophobic.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Craig Seymour<\/a> notes it happening to a book of his back in February. They claim this is done as part of their policy of removing sales ranking from anything deemed &#8220;adult&#8221; and is intended to help (ie: protect by blanking) customers who don&#8217;t want to see &#8220;adult&#8221; material turn up in their searches:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In consideration of our entire customer base, we exclude &#8220;adult&#8221; material from appearing in some searches and best seller lists. Since these lists are generated using sales ranks, adult materials must also be excluded from that feature.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It quickly became apparent that gay and lesbian titles are being penalised in a very scattershot manner. As <a href=\"http:\/\/jezebel.com\/5209088\/why-is-amazon-removing-the-sales-rankings-from-gay-lesbian-books\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jezebel.com<\/a> noted:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Queer theory books, books on coming out, and feminism books lose their rankings, but <em>A Parent&#8217;s Guide To Preventing Homosexuality <\/em>gets to keep its rank? WTF?!?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Other people noted that <em>Mein Kampf<\/em> gets to keep its sales rank. There&#8217;s a growing list of affected titles <a href=\"http:\/\/community.livejournal.com\/meta_writer\/11992.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a>. Examples of inconsistency can be found all over; an early title by William Burroughs, <em>Queer<\/em>, has no sales ranking while <em>Cities of the Red Night<\/em> does. The latter contains a lot more hardcore gay sex than the former but I guess it was the title which damned <em>Queer<\/em> rather than the content. I could go on listing and comparing but you can do that yourself, it&#8217;s a curious diversion wondering what gets hit and what doesn&#8217;t. I had a quick look through Amazon.co.uk and that seems affected in an equally haphazard manner with gay-themed academic titles being stripped of their rankings while other books with erotic scenes (Alan Hollinghurst&#8217;s novels, for example) are left alone. Plenty of non-gay erotic books have also been left alone.<\/p>\n<p>As a consequence of this the obvious thing to do is to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.edrants.com\/amazonfail-a-call-to-boycott-amazon\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">boycott Amazon<\/a> until there&#8217;s a clear change of policy, and I say this as someone who has a book of his own on sale there. Buy it <a href=\"http:\/\/search.barnesandnoble.com\/booksearch\/isbnInquiry.asp?z=y&amp;isbn=1902197232&amp;itm=2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">elsewhere<\/a>, people. I&#8217;m changing the Amazon Associates links on this site so they point to publishers&#8217; pages or other booksellers. I&#8217;ve never made much from the Associates scheme but in the two years I&#8217;ve been a part of it the various clicks and orders from visitors have generated Amazon nearly \u00a31000 ($1800). Given their present policy towards gay and lesbian books\u2014accidental or otherwise\u2014I don&#8217;t see why I should be assisting them any further.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update:<\/strong> <a href=\"http:\/\/tehdely.livejournal.com\/88823.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">A theory<\/a> that this was caused by some clever trolling. Um, I think not. As noted above, it&#8217;s been going on for some time.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update 2:<\/strong> Amazon says: &#8220;We recently discovered a glitch to our Amazon sales rank feature that is in the process of being fixed. We\u2019re working to correct the problem as quickly as possible.\u201d Gay news blogs remain <a href=\"http:\/\/www.queerty.com\/amazon-says-sorry-for-delisting-gay-books-twitter-doesnt-care-20090413\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">unconvinced<\/a>. A pertinent quote from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.towleroad.com\/2009\/04\/amazon-deems-gay-books-adult-strips-sales-rankings.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Andy Towle at Towleroad<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It &#8230; brings up a wider issue. This kind of double-standard happens not only across the internet but across media. Towleroad, for example, although we carry no pornographic content, is widely blocked as &#8220;adult&#8221; by many corporate filters simply because we write about gay issues. It&#8217;s the same reason magazines like <em>OUT<\/em> and <em>The Advocate<\/em> are often placed among porn titles on newsstands when they clearly don&#8217;t belong there.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Update 3:<\/strong> <a href=\"http:\/\/nielsenhayden.com\/makinglight\/archives\/011173.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Patrick Nielsen Hayden&#8217;s appraisal<\/a> of the farrago. Best theory I&#8217;ve seen so far (Amazon&#8217;s &#8220;glitch&#8221; excuse isn&#8217;t enough for most people, hence the ongoing theorising). Note that he doesn&#8217;t rule out the trolling theory either.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update 4:<\/strong> Finally&#8230;<a href=\"http:\/\/blog.seattlepi.com\/amazon\/archives\/166329.asp\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a more detailed admission<\/a> of culpability from someone at Amazon.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update 5:<\/strong> NYT &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2009\/04\/14\/technology\/internet\/14amazon.html?_r=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Amazon Says Error Removed Listings<\/a>&#8220;.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update 6:<\/strong> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.techcrunch.com\/2009\/04\/14\/guest-post-why-amazon-didnt-just-have-a-glitch\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Last word on the whole business<\/a> (maybe).<\/p>\n<p>Previously on { feuilleton }<br \/>\n\u2022 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.johncoulthart.com\/feuilleton\/2006\/11\/29\/the-art-of-shinro-ohtake\/\" target=\"_self\">The art of Shinro Ohtake<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I haven&#8217;t been using Twitter for very long and until today hadn&#8217;t seen the way it can spur people to action with incredible speed. Among my circle of people it was Neil Gaiman who set things rolling with a link to this post by author Mark R Probst which describes how Amazon.com have been quietly &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.johncoulthart.com\/feuilleton\/2009\/04\/13\/amazonfail\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;#Amazonfail&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[42,28,5,14],"tags":[301,1190],"class_list":["post-4911","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-books","category-burroughs","category-gay","category-politics","tag-neil-gaiman","tag-william-burroughs"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pq7rV-1hd","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.johncoulthart.com\/feuilleton\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4911","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.johncoulthart.com\/feuilleton\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.johncoulthart.com\/feuilleton\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.johncoulthart.com\/feuilleton\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.johncoulthart.com\/feuilleton\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4911"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.johncoulthart.com\/feuilleton\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4911\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.johncoulthart.com\/feuilleton\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4911"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.johncoulthart.com\/feuilleton\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4911"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.johncoulthart.com\/feuilleton\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4911"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}