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		<title>By: MÁRCIO SALERNO</title>
		<link>http://www.johncoulthart.com/feuilleton/2007/04/07/chrome-perfumed-metal/comment-page-1/#comment-53152</link>
		<dc:creator>MÁRCIO SALERNO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 15:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I first met CHROME by pure chance, four video-clips alongside a concert by BAUHAUS, in a VHS tape, which was the real attraction to me, at the time. 
But when I saw those guys in a subway, dressed like the guys in Kubrick&#039;s A CLOCKWORK ORANGE, all negative image, i thought something special was there. 
Couldn&#039;t trace any of their records in Brazil, but I do have some Nik Turner&#039;s CDs which features Helios Creed, plus the PRESSUREHEAD experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I first met CHROME by pure chance, four video-clips alongside a concert by BAUHAUS, in a VHS tape, which was the real attraction to me, at the time.<br />
But when I saw those guys in a subway, dressed like the guys in Kubrick&#8217;s A CLOCKWORK ORANGE, all negative image, i thought something special was there.<br />
Couldn&#8217;t trace any of their records in Brazil, but I do have some Nik Turner&#8217;s CDs which features Helios Creed, plus the PRESSUREHEAD experience.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;blockquote&gt;have you ever heard of a band called Less&lt;/blockquote&gt;



No I haven&#039;t but I look out for them. Middle eastern sounds promising since I love Arabian music.

Rik: I thought Ellroy wrote Blood on the Moon later than that? There&#039;s a film--a Western, I think--with that title as well. Stars Jimmy Cagney as I recall.

Half Machine Lip Moves is definitely the key Chrome album. After that they tailed off and the later ones in the select list above are a fairly straight, science fiction-inflected rock music. Still good for all that, especially No Humans Allowed (half of which is the wacked-out tape experiments of Read Only Memory) and the 20 minutes of Wings Born In The Night on Chronicles 1.</description>
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<p>No I haven&#8217;t but I look out for them. Middle eastern sounds promising since I love Arabian music.</p>
<p>Rik: I thought Ellroy wrote Blood on the Moon later than that? There&#8217;s a film&#8211;a Western, I think&#8211;with that title as well. Stars Jimmy Cagney as I recall.</p>
<p>Half Machine Lip Moves is definitely the key Chrome album. After that they tailed off and the later ones in the select list above are a fairly straight, science fiction-inflected rock music. Still good for all that, especially No Humans Allowed (half of which is the wacked-out tape experiments of Read Only Memory) and the 20 minutes of Wings Born In The Night on Chronicles 1.</p>
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		<title>By: Rik Rawling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rik Rawling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 10:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John

Thanks for the tip-off - one worth pursuing. I was first aware of them from one of the Roger Dean Album Covers books, which featured the &#039;Blood On The Moon&#039; cover (a title which I&#039;d always assumed they&#039;d &quot;appropriated&quot; from Ellroy&#039;s novel, published at around the same time). Cope&#039;s erudite overview was the clincher, and a brief trawl hauled in a few mp3&#039;s, including &#039;TV As Eyes&#039; which certainly lives up to Cope&#039;s hyperbole and sounds like The Stooges emerging 10 years later and using the technology available. &#039;Cyber-Punk&#039; is too easy a summary of a band that seemed to exist purely to explode conventions - at least from what I&#039;ve heard so far.
Keep those recommendations coming.

R</description>
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<p>Thanks for the tip-off &#8211; one worth pursuing. I was first aware of them from one of the Roger Dean Album Covers books, which featured the &#8216;Blood On The Moon&#8217; cover (a title which I&#8217;d always assumed they&#8217;d &#8220;appropriated&#8221; from Ellroy&#8217;s novel, published at around the same time). Cope&#8217;s erudite overview was the clincher, and a brief trawl hauled in a few mp3&#8217;s, including &#8216;TV As Eyes&#8217; which certainly lives up to Cope&#8217;s hyperbole and sounds like The Stooges emerging 10 years later and using the technology available. &#8216;Cyber-Punk&#8217; is too easy a summary of a band that seemed to exist purely to explode conventions &#8211; at least from what I&#8217;ve heard so far.<br />
Keep those recommendations coming.</p>
<p>R</p>
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		<title>By: Wiley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually liked Rodriguez&#039;s half a little better, but I won&#039;t tell you why yet, as it would ruin it for you. I&#039;ll just assure you that both are appropriately tasteless. I didn&#039;t think the Zombie King sounded as good either. 

As I am writing this, seeing as how bands are part of the discussion, have you ever heard of a band called &#039;Less&#039;? I heard about them recently on the website of the artist Dan Ouellette, and just got their album &#039;cover, protective, individual&#039; for very cheap. I haven&#039;t listened to their other stuff, but this album is very - somber middle-eastern meets older rock. Very recommended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually liked Rodriguez&#8217;s half a little better, but I won&#8217;t tell you why yet, as it would ruin it for you. I&#8217;ll just assure you that both are appropriately tasteless. I didn&#8217;t think the Zombie King sounded as good either. </p>
<p>As I am writing this, seeing as how bands are part of the discussion, have you ever heard of a band called &#8216;Less&#8217;? I heard about them recently on the website of the artist Dan Ouellette, and just got their album &#8216;cover, protective, individual&#8217; for very cheap. I haven&#8217;t listened to their other stuff, but this album is very &#8211; somber middle-eastern meets older rock. Very recommended.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;d be Into the Eyes of the Zombie King by the post-Helios Chrome. Not the same quality as the early albums at all. Cleopatra put the albums out on CD mixing the good, older works with the often very poor later ones. This hasn&#039;t helped the band&#039;s reputation at all.

I&#039;m looking forward to Grindhouse although mainly for the Tarantino half. Rodriguez has ended up boring me in the past, he lacks Tarantino&#039;s wit. I think I may have to wait to see this on DVD then I can fast forward if necessary. ;) The poster art is cool, authentically tacky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;d be Into the Eyes of the Zombie King by the post-Helios Chrome. Not the same quality as the early albums at all. Cleopatra put the albums out on CD mixing the good, older works with the often very poor later ones. This hasn&#8217;t helped the band&#8217;s reputation at all.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to Grindhouse although mainly for the Tarantino half. Rodriguez has ended up boring me in the past, he lacks Tarantino&#8217;s wit. I think I may have to wait to see this on DVD then I can fast forward if necessary. ;) The poster art is cool, authentically tacky.</p>
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		<title>By: Wiley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 00:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, a CD I&#039;ve seen of &#039;third from the sun&#039; was actually a double album disk whose other record, &#039;Zombie king, something&#039; had a rickety drum machine going as well. It&#039;s that dirty, irrational feeling I&#039;ve gotten from the samples and songs that I&#039;ve heard that reminded me of SleepChamber, I&#039;d definitely just call them ambient, I believe I&#039;ve read that every &#039;industrial&#039; band contemporary to their time absolutely hated SleepChamber. One the CDs that was so expensive was a Cleopatra, what a damn shame. 

I definitely like your artwork for Cradle of Filth, but by the time of your correspondence with them my interest was shot. Around the release of their first video (the only one that really peaked my interest- PanDaemonAeon, I believe) I wasn&#039;t sure what to make of them. That was about the time the line-up started changing just constantly. Yet, I always liked that video, and would always imagine odd, old bands reappearing like Univers Zero or the like, and making a similar video with a more entertaining soundtrack. Now I am getting that feeling about Chrome. The fact that I just saw that stupid movie &#039;Grindhouse&#039; which I loved in spite of my remark, has gotten me stuck in that decades old pulpy, genre-bending, sleazy movie state of mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, a CD I&#8217;ve seen of &#8216;third from the sun&#8217; was actually a double album disk whose other record, &#8216;Zombie king, something&#8217; had a rickety drum machine going as well. It&#8217;s that dirty, irrational feeling I&#8217;ve gotten from the samples and songs that I&#8217;ve heard that reminded me of SleepChamber, I&#8217;d definitely just call them ambient, I believe I&#8217;ve read that every &#8216;industrial&#8217; band contemporary to their time absolutely hated SleepChamber. One the CDs that was so expensive was a Cleopatra, what a damn shame. </p>
<p>I definitely like your artwork for Cradle of Filth, but by the time of your correspondence with them my interest was shot. Around the release of their first video (the only one that really peaked my interest- PanDaemonAeon, I believe) I wasn&#8217;t sure what to make of them. That was about the time the line-up started changing just constantly. Yet, I always liked that video, and would always imagine odd, old bands reappearing like Univers Zero or the like, and making a similar video with a more entertaining soundtrack. Now I am getting that feeling about Chrome. The fact that I just saw that stupid movie &#8216;Grindhouse&#8217; which I loved in spite of my remark, has gotten me stuck in that decades old pulpy, genre-bending, sleazy movie state of mind.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 21:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$120? Yike...is this original vinyl or something? Some of the old Cleopatra CD releases should be knocking around cheaper. 

Don&#039;t think I&#039;ve heard any Sleep Chamber that I remember. I pretty much lost interest in that second/third wave of industrial stuff in the mid to late 80s. Not that there isn&#039;t good there, just that my attention wandered. I lost interest in Chrome and Edge and Creed&#039;s work post-Chrome as well, although Helios has done some good albums since.

Yes, Chrome were in the vanguard of that sound although with more of a rock feel. I think the rockier side put off the Cabaret Voltaire/Throbbing Gristle fans who otherwise might have liked them. There&#039;s even some metallic percussion in places that predates groups like Einstürzende Neubauten and Test Department.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$120? Yike&#8230;is this original vinyl or something? Some of the old Cleopatra CD releases should be knocking around cheaper. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve heard any Sleep Chamber that I remember. I pretty much lost interest in that second/third wave of industrial stuff in the mid to late 80s. Not that there isn&#8217;t good there, just that my attention wandered. I lost interest in Chrome and Edge and Creed&#8217;s work post-Chrome as well, although Helios has done some good albums since.</p>
<p>Yes, Chrome were in the vanguard of that sound although with more of a rock feel. I think the rockier side put off the Cabaret Voltaire/Throbbing Gristle fans who otherwise might have liked them. There&#8217;s even some metallic percussion in places that predates groups like Einstürzende Neubauten and Test Department.</p>
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		<title>By: Wiley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 13:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve heard early Sleep Chamber haven&#039;t you? The material around the time of  &#039;Sexmagick Ritual&#039; , &#039;Satanic Sanction&#039; , and &#039;Sacrosancts&#039; has a similarly dirty, dark, mysterious atmosphere about them, only more straight ambient in style, whereas Chrome&#039;s (what I&#039;ve been able to hear) sound like some crazy bastard hybrid of early industrial and post-punk. Since none of their releases that truly intrigue me are available for anything less than around $120, and there is still that damn expensive Lovecraft-Art book from centipede that I want, I am just going to have to wait on Chrome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve heard early Sleep Chamber haven&#8217;t you? The material around the time of  &#8216;Sexmagick Ritual&#8217; , &#8216;Satanic Sanction&#8217; , and &#8216;Sacrosancts&#8217; has a similarly dirty, dark, mysterious atmosphere about them, only more straight ambient in style, whereas Chrome&#8217;s (what I&#8217;ve been able to hear) sound like some crazy bastard hybrid of early industrial and post-punk. Since none of their releases that truly intrigue me are available for anything less than around $120, and there is still that damn expensive Lovecraft-Art book from centipede that I want, I am just going to have to wait on Chrome.</p>
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